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It's true, but bitcoin if bitcoin was standardized globaly, how could a strict amount of asset (bitcoin) work with a never ending growing market. I th...
It's late at night and I don't have energy tonight for answering so I got this from ChatGPT instead (see below). Also, listen to a bunch of Jeff Booth interviews. 🧡🧡
Here's my AI assisted response:
This is a very thoughtful question — you’re touching the core tension between fixed money supply and growing economic output.
Let’s break it down clearly.
1️⃣ How could a fixed-supply asset (like Bitcoin) work in a growing economy?
Bitcoin has a hard cap of 21 million coins. If it became the global standard:
- The money supply would be fixed
- The economy (goods, services, productivity) would continue growing
What would happen?
If output grows but money supply doesn’t, then:
Prices fall over time (deflation)
Example:
- Today: 1 BTC = 1 house
- In 20 years: 1 BTC = 5 houses (because productivity increased)
So instead of inflation (prices rising), you'd get increasing purchasing power of money.
This is not mathematically impossible. It’s how gold-standard economies partially functioned in the 19th century.
2️⃣ The real economic tension
The main issue isn’t "there isn’t enough money."
Money is divisible. Bitcoin can be divided into:
- 100 million satoshis per BTC
- Potentially even smaller units in software
So supply divisibility is not the problem.
The deeper concerns are:
🔹 A) Debt becomes harder
In a deflationary system:
- Debts become more expensive over time
- Borrowing is riskier
- Credit-based expansion slows
Modern economies are built heavily on debt expansion.
🔹 B) Hoarding incentive
If money increases in value over time:
- Saving is rewarded
- Spending is delayed
- Risk-taking may reduce
Some economists argue this slows innovation. Others argue it forces smarter capital allocation.
3️⃣ Your idea: money reflecting natural resources
You said:
"We should have an asset that reflects the actual state of natural resources — which enable production."
That’s a powerful concept. Let's analyze it.
What you're proposing sounds like:
- A resource-backed currency
- Or a production-capacity indexed currency
Something like:
- Energy-backed money
- Carbon-capacity backed money
- Land/resource basket standard
- GDP-indexed token
- Commodity basket currency
4️⃣ The difficulty with resource-backed money
It sounds intuitive — but here are the structural challenges:
🔸 1) Resources change constantly
- New discoveries
- Technological efficiency improvements
- Substitutions (e.g., solar replaces oil)
What exactly would you peg it to?
🔸 2) Measuring “real resource capacity” is hard
Natural resources:
- Are geographically distributed
- Have extraction costs
- Are politically controlled
- May be environmentally constrained
You’d need:
- A global authority
- Real-time measurement
- Agreement on valuation
That introduces governance and trust issues.
🔸 3) Production ≠ resources alone
Production depends on:
- Technology
- Human capital
- Institutions
- Energy efficiency
- Knowledge
Japan has few natural resources but massive production. Congo has huge resources but low production.
So resource-backing doesn’t directly equal economic output.
5️⃣ Deeper philosophical divide
Your question really touches this:
Should money reflect:
A) Scarcity? (Bitcoin model) B) Production capacity? (Growth-indexed model) C) Resource base? (Commodity model) D) Political policy? (Fiat model)
Each system optimizes different values.
6️⃣ Can a fixed asset work in a growing world?
Yes — but the economy would look different:
- More savings-driven
- Less debt-leveraged
- Slower credit expansion
- Possibly lower boom/bust cycles
- Stronger purchasing power over time
It would likely be:
- Less inflationary
- More volatile during adjustment phase
- Structurally deflationary
The real issue isn’t “not enough money.”
It’s whether society can operate without:
- Continuous credit expansion
- Monetary stimulus
- Inflation as a political tool
7️⃣ Your intuition is very interesting
You’re thinking in thermodynamic terms:
Production depends on physical constraints (energy, materials).
That aligns with:
- Energy economics
- Ecological economics
- Biophysical economics
Some economists (like Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen or Herman Daly) argue exactly this:
Money should reflect energy and entropy constraints.
8️⃣ Big insight
Bitcoin reflects digital scarcity. Natural-resource money reflects physical scarcity. Fiat reflects political authority.
Each anchors value differently.
The real question becomes:
Do we want money to represent scarcity, production capacity, or governance power?
There is no purely technical answer — it's philosophical and political.
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"content": "It's late at night and I don't have energy tonight for answering so I got this from ChatGPT instead (see below). Also, listen to a bunch of Jeff Booth interviews. 🧡🧡\n\nHere's my AI assisted response:\n\nThis is a very thoughtful question — you’re touching the core tension between **fixed money supply** and **growing economic output**.\n\nLet’s break it down clearly.\n\n---\n\n## 1️⃣ How could a fixed-supply asset (like Bitcoin) work in a growing economy?\n\nBitcoin has a **hard cap of 21 million coins**. If it became the global standard:\n\n* The **money supply would be fixed**\n* The **economy (goods, services, productivity) would continue growing**\n\n### What would happen?\n\nIf output grows but money supply doesn’t, then:\n\n\u003e Prices fall over time (deflation)\n\nExample:\n\n* Today: 1 BTC = 1 house\n* In 20 years: 1 BTC = 5 houses (because productivity increased)\n\nSo instead of inflation (prices rising), you'd get **increasing purchasing power** of money.\n\nThis is not mathematically impossible. It’s how gold-standard economies partially functioned in the 19th century.\n\n---\n\n## 2️⃣ The real economic tension\n\nThe main issue isn’t \"there isn’t enough money.\"\n\nMoney is divisible. Bitcoin can be divided into:\n\n* 100 million satoshis per BTC\n* Potentially even smaller units in software\n\nSo supply divisibility is not the problem.\n\nThe deeper concerns are:\n\n### 🔹 A) Debt becomes harder\n\nIn a deflationary system:\n\n* Debts become more expensive over time\n* Borrowing is riskier\n* Credit-based expansion slows\n\nModern economies are built heavily on debt expansion.\n\n---\n\n### 🔹 B) Hoarding incentive\n\nIf money increases in value over time:\n\n* Saving is rewarded\n* Spending is delayed\n* Risk-taking may reduce\n\nSome economists argue this slows innovation.\nOthers argue it forces smarter capital allocation.\n\n---\n\n## 3️⃣ Your idea: money reflecting natural resources\n\nYou said:\n\n\u003e \"We should have an asset that reflects the actual state of natural resources — which enable production.\"\n\nThat’s a powerful concept. Let's analyze it.\n\n### What you're proposing sounds like:\n\n* A **resource-backed currency**\n* Or a **production-capacity indexed currency**\n\nSomething like:\n\n* Energy-backed money\n* Carbon-capacity backed money\n* Land/resource basket standard\n* GDP-indexed token\n* Commodity basket currency\n\n---\n\n## 4️⃣ The difficulty with resource-backed money\n\nIt sounds intuitive — but here are the structural challenges:\n\n### 🔸 1) Resources change constantly\n\n* New discoveries\n* Technological efficiency improvements\n* Substitutions (e.g., solar replaces oil)\n\nWhat exactly would you peg it to?\n\n---\n\n### 🔸 2) Measuring “real resource capacity” is hard\n\nNatural resources:\n\n* Are geographically distributed\n* Have extraction costs\n* Are politically controlled\n* May be environmentally constrained\n\nYou’d need:\n\n* A global authority\n* Real-time measurement\n* Agreement on valuation\n\nThat introduces governance and trust issues.\n\n---\n\n### 🔸 3) Production ≠ resources alone\n\nProduction depends on:\n\n* Technology\n* Human capital\n* Institutions\n* Energy efficiency\n* Knowledge\n\nJapan has few natural resources but massive production.\nCongo has huge resources but low production.\n\nSo resource-backing doesn’t directly equal economic output.\n\n---\n\n## 5️⃣ Deeper philosophical divide\n\nYour question really touches this:\n\n### Should money reflect:\n\nA) Scarcity? (Bitcoin model)\nB) Production capacity? (Growth-indexed model)\nC) Resource base? (Commodity model)\nD) Political policy? (Fiat model)\n\nEach system optimizes different values.\n\n---\n\n## 6️⃣ Can a fixed asset work in a growing world?\n\nYes — but the economy would look different:\n\n* More savings-driven\n* Less debt-leveraged\n* Slower credit expansion\n* Possibly lower boom/bust cycles\n* Stronger purchasing power over time\n\nIt would likely be:\n\n* Less inflationary\n* More volatile during adjustment phase\n* Structurally deflationary\n\nThe real issue isn’t “not enough money.”\n\nIt’s whether society can operate without:\n\n* Continuous credit expansion\n* Monetary stimulus\n* Inflation as a political tool\n\n---\n\n## 7️⃣ Your intuition is very interesting\n\nYou’re thinking in thermodynamic terms:\n\n\u003e Production depends on physical constraints (energy, materials).\n\nThat aligns with:\n\n* Energy economics\n* Ecological economics\n* Biophysical economics\n\nSome economists (like Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen or Herman Daly) argue exactly this:\n\n\u003e Money should reflect energy and entropy constraints.\n\n---\n\n## 8️⃣ Big insight\n\nBitcoin reflects **digital scarcity**.\nNatural-resource money reflects **physical scarcity**.\nFiat reflects **political authority**.\n\nEach anchors value differently.\n\nThe real question becomes:\n\n\u003e Do we want money to represent scarcity, production capacity, or governance power?\n\nThere is no purely technical answer — it's philosophical and political.\n",
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