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↳ 回复 Maxime • • • (npub1zkse38pvfqlkcmcc7tw6zqecj7sqxe5lgj0u9ldylghmdjfppyqqtsa4du)

It's true, but bitcoin if bitcoin was standardized globaly, how could a strict amount of asset (bitcoin) work with a never ending growing market. I th...

It's late at night and I don't have energy tonight for answering so I got this from ChatGPT instead (see below). Also, listen to a bunch of Jeff Booth interviews. 🧡🧡

Here's my AI assisted response:

This is a very thoughtful question — you’re touching the core tension between fixed money supply and growing economic output.

Let’s break it down clearly.


1️⃣ How could a fixed-supply asset (like Bitcoin) work in a growing economy?

Bitcoin has a hard cap of 21 million coins. If it became the global standard:

  • The money supply would be fixed
  • The economy (goods, services, productivity) would continue growing

What would happen?

If output grows but money supply doesn’t, then:

Prices fall over time (deflation)

Example:

  • Today: 1 BTC = 1 house
  • In 20 years: 1 BTC = 5 houses (because productivity increased)

So instead of inflation (prices rising), you'd get increasing purchasing power of money.

This is not mathematically impossible. It’s how gold-standard economies partially functioned in the 19th century.


2️⃣ The real economic tension

The main issue isn’t "there isn’t enough money."

Money is divisible. Bitcoin can be divided into:

  • 100 million satoshis per BTC
  • Potentially even smaller units in software

So supply divisibility is not the problem.

The deeper concerns are:

🔹 A) Debt becomes harder

In a deflationary system:

  • Debts become more expensive over time
  • Borrowing is riskier
  • Credit-based expansion slows

Modern economies are built heavily on debt expansion.


🔹 B) Hoarding incentive

If money increases in value over time:

  • Saving is rewarded
  • Spending is delayed
  • Risk-taking may reduce

Some economists argue this slows innovation. Others argue it forces smarter capital allocation.


3️⃣ Your idea: money reflecting natural resources

You said:

"We should have an asset that reflects the actual state of natural resources — which enable production."

That’s a powerful concept. Let's analyze it.

What you're proposing sounds like:

  • A resource-backed currency
  • Or a production-capacity indexed currency

Something like:

  • Energy-backed money
  • Carbon-capacity backed money
  • Land/resource basket standard
  • GDP-indexed token
  • Commodity basket currency

4️⃣ The difficulty with resource-backed money

It sounds intuitive — but here are the structural challenges:

🔸 1) Resources change constantly

  • New discoveries
  • Technological efficiency improvements
  • Substitutions (e.g., solar replaces oil)

What exactly would you peg it to?


🔸 2) Measuring “real resource capacity” is hard

Natural resources:

  • Are geographically distributed
  • Have extraction costs
  • Are politically controlled
  • May be environmentally constrained

You’d need:

  • A global authority
  • Real-time measurement
  • Agreement on valuation

That introduces governance and trust issues.


🔸 3) Production ≠ resources alone

Production depends on:

  • Technology
  • Human capital
  • Institutions
  • Energy efficiency
  • Knowledge

Japan has few natural resources but massive production. Congo has huge resources but low production.

So resource-backing doesn’t directly equal economic output.


5️⃣ Deeper philosophical divide

Your question really touches this:

Should money reflect:

A) Scarcity? (Bitcoin model) B) Production capacity? (Growth-indexed model) C) Resource base? (Commodity model) D) Political policy? (Fiat model)

Each system optimizes different values.


6️⃣ Can a fixed asset work in a growing world?

Yes — but the economy would look different:

  • More savings-driven
  • Less debt-leveraged
  • Slower credit expansion
  • Possibly lower boom/bust cycles
  • Stronger purchasing power over time

It would likely be:

  • Less inflationary
  • More volatile during adjustment phase
  • Structurally deflationary

The real issue isn’t “not enough money.”

It’s whether society can operate without:

  • Continuous credit expansion
  • Monetary stimulus
  • Inflation as a political tool

7️⃣ Your intuition is very interesting

You’re thinking in thermodynamic terms:

Production depends on physical constraints (energy, materials).

That aligns with:

  • Energy economics
  • Ecological economics
  • Biophysical economics

Some economists (like Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen or Herman Daly) argue exactly this:

Money should reflect energy and entropy constraints.


8️⃣ Big insight

Bitcoin reflects digital scarcity. Natural-resource money reflects physical scarcity. Fiat reflects political authority.

Each anchors value differently.

The real question becomes:

Do we want money to represent scarcity, production capacity, or governance power?

There is no purely technical answer — it's philosophical and political.

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