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Debian's packaging seems fine until you use something that isn't insane. Then you wonder why everyone puts up with it. The idea that dependency hell is even possible is wild.
Systemd is an obnoxious pile of crap, but Debian's implementation of sysvinit was so bad it almost seemed sensible to switch. But at the end of the day there's nothing 'Unix like' about systemd's philosophy of "do all the things, use binary blobs, and do most of them in a fairly half assed manner." I somewhat sympathize with the sysadmin side of things where systemd can handle scaling things in certain ways, but I'm not sitting on a computer lab.
And yea...Ubuntu inherits both of these.
I also just don't love the whole 'let's make everything easy by hiding it from the user.' In my experience it's a great way to create users that can't dig themselves out of the situation when things break. Slackware, if you ask me, is as simple as it needs to be, and likely, an be, without crossing that line.
All that said, the 'user friendly' distro when I started using Linux was Mandrake. And I can say this nice thing about Ubuntu: it's not Mandrake 😄.
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