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The white paper is the first-principles document. It is the blueprint: the design, the purpose, and ...
Wow, I strongly disagree with you on this. The white paper is by definition not "first principles". At all. And I think reconsidering this might pos...
Wow, I strongly disagree with you on this.
The white paper is by definition not "first principles". At all. And I think reconsidering this might possibly lead you to reconsider other opinions as well, just based on how flawed I think this perspective is.
The IDEA of bitcoin seems to be founded deeply from first principles.
The white paper is an explanation of how this idea can be constructed and brought to life.
The actual code implementations then finally take the guidelines of the whitepaper to implement the idea in code-form, thus bringing it into our reality in terms of actually being able to use it.
When we then later decide to deviate from the whitepaper, if those deviations improve on project, where improvement is based on the first principles of the societal problems bitcoin seeks to solve, then those changes are (probably) good.
When the changes then show to have had negative side effects that outweigh the benefits, we must conclude that we were idiots when we implemented that change.
But the white paper in itself is not first principles.
Human rights are first principles.
Laws of physics are first principles.
Nature is first principles.
Bitcoin whitepaper is an idea. Thinking about
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I think best efforts are made to "properly understand side effects before committing actions". We just havn't been smart enough it seems. How we d...
I think best efforts are made to "properly understand side effects before committing actions".
We just havn't been smart enough it seems.
How we deal with that decides whether bitcoin survives its infancy or not
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We should learn from his way of thinking, not blindly follow his thoughts. Referring to "satoshis original vision" is misguided. We shouldn't care a...
We should learn from his way of thinking, not blindly follow his thoughts.
Referring to "satoshis original vision" is misguided. We shouldn't care at all about "satoshis original vision".
We should think for ourselves.
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I agree with him on this though. I cringe every time I see someone refer to "what satoshi envisioned". I think it is entirely un-bitcoin-esque to r...
I agree with him on this though.
I cringe every time I see someone refer to "what satoshi envisioned".
I think it is entirely un-bitcoin-esque to refer to satoshi for anything other than the merit of his brilliance.
As a bitcoiner, I take pride in being able to think from a first principles point of view. Satoshi is not first principles, but his idea was indeed founded from a deep understanding of solving a problem from a first principles approach.
And that is why, referring to the white paper, or something satoshi has said, is practically irrelevant, except as an worthy opinion in a debate of many opinions.
We must think and build and solve from a first principles point of view.
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Ps. Check your nostr dm's.
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If anything, BIP110 blundered an opportunity to fix the very real problems it addressed. Imagine if Luke, via Knots had fought in the same arena as co...
If anything, BIP110 blundered an opportunity to fix the very real problems it addressed. Imagine if Luke, via Knots had fought in the same arena as core.
Core made a policy change.
Luke managed to get adoption of his implementation that reverted that policy change.
In hindsight, why go the extra step in a rushed way? Had adoption of knots continued, that in and of itself would've been a viable response.
I agree with Samson Mow that the problem was not urgent enough to warrant a *rushed* soft fork.
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Is he wrong? Imagine a world where mining is actually decentralised. Where nodes ~ miners. Then that statement makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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Both have explained publicly that hodlonaut reached out to zucco for advice/sparring and was momentarily convinced by zucco's valid arguments against.
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I understand how that is the "by the book" approach. But in practical terms, do you consider a core node runner to have been signalling for BIP110 ye...
I understand how that is the "by the book" approach.
But in practical terms, do you consider a core node runner to have been signalling for BIP110 yesterday?
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Should’ve been more than sufficient if miners weren’t in a cartel/someone didn’t yank their chain fr...
Help me understand why? Are the non-bip110-signalling nodes not an indication of the opposite opinion?
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I think my problem with this game theory perspective is that 18.000 nodes is not really sufficient is it? Clearly then, 78.000 nodes didn't signal the...
I think my problem with this game theory perspective is that 18.000 nodes is not really sufficient is it?
Clearly then, 78.000 nodes didn't signal they wanted this change, so despite 18.000 being a significant amount of nodes it is not an overwhelming amount of nodes, right?
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GM. I was wrong. bCore wasn’t right. Bitcoin is in the worst state it has ever been. Bitcoin Indepen...
The questions knots raised were / are 100% valid questions. Seems the wider community just didn't care. BIP110 was a wrong solution to a valid pr...
The questions knots raised were / are 100% valid questions.
Seems the wider community just didn't care.
BIP110 was a wrong solution to a valid problem. This has been stated by many great minds in bitcoin.
The problem was it was also the *only* solution.
That puts real plebs in a difficult situation and creating the choice of "bad" or "worse".
I think core is "worse", but enough people didn't agree.
I think bip110 enforced the way it was, was horrible, but for me personally, I'd rather do that and win the rest of the community over than do nothing at all.
Samson Mow said on The bitcoin podcast, paraphrasing "core made the change, i didnt agree with it and gave them shit for it, but its done, they already did it, its over, so I moved on and stopped talking about it"
That doesnt sit well with me, to just say "ok, ill continue running your code"
And thats the feeling and attitude that pushed me to want something else.
I personally feel that "something else" was just running knots instead.
Clearly the BIP110 part of things was not the right call.
I think we as bitcoiners just need to be and do better.
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The vast majority of Bitcoiners aren't much smarter than people who use fiat currency. Just accept ...
Im not sure I perfectly understand. I thought the bip110 side of things would accept any bip110 compliant block regardless of signaling. Since you'r...
Im not sure I perfectly understand. I thought the bip110 side of things would accept any bip110 compliant block regardless of signaling.
Since you're clearly the smartest person in the world, you get to explain it to me ❤️
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Knots, an ultra-religious nutcase who got every vaccine and wore a mask to protect himself from a vi...
A virus that never existed? Aight, one thing is to oppose the state-level attack on basic freedoms based on the pandemic. Unforgivable. The vaccines ...
A virus that never existed?
Aight, one thing is to oppose the state-level attack on basic freedoms based on the pandemic. Unforgivable. The vaccines and the vaccine mandates were fucked up to say the least.
Another thing is to claim the virus itself never existed, when too many have experienced its effects first hand.
Instead of being a toxic maximalist, it seems you have tendencies to just be toxic, maybe.
I'll take your inputs with an extra grain of salt going forward.
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This is not a bullseye post at all. I feel like you're on a noble mission - but I'll call you out when I see you support bad takes. Hope you'll take...
This is not a bullseye post at all.
I feel like you're on a noble mission - but I'll call you out when I see you support bad takes. Hope you'll take that constructively.
I dont get the hate towards Odell.
There is no way he is a bad actor.
I personally feel he has approached the knots v core debate from a misguided angle, but that makes his take misguided, not a bad actor.
Also, why even care that he "went back to twitter".
He can do whatever he sees fit, and changing ones mind is perfectly healthy.
Im sure I wouldnt see you bashinh any prominent anti-bip110 person changing their mind to support bip110 today fx.
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You're IP address credit score must be at least this high to access our servers
Why is IP an issue, is it not trivial to VPN around that obstacle? Should it not be default even?
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Yes, completely abandoning all faith in people who have otherwise showed integrity for a decade is problematic. Doing so seems immature to me. Obvious...
Yes, completely abandoning all faith in people who have otherwise showed integrity for a decade is problematic. Doing so seems immature to me. Obviously I could be wrong, but I'd rather be wrong and have had some faith in humanity than be right and lose anyway.
>> "not bitcoin driven"
I dont feel Odell has given us any reason to believe he is a bad actor.
In fact, him arguing from an emotional standpoint in latest RHR screams to me that he is shaken by the prospect of bitcoin failing as a result of this debacle - because he and his family rely on bitcoin.
>> "severity of problems bip110 tries to solve"
Ironically, Odells emotional response is kind of signalling a deep (subconcious) understanding of the severity of the problem that core30 introduced.
I.e. the attack vector that makes Odell fear the prospects of bip110. He just doesnt realize it and projects his anger towards luke and mechanic.
nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx, honestly, lets just for arguments sake agree that luke and mechanic are attackers of bitcoin. WHO GAVE THEM THIS "CLEVER" ATTACK VECTOR.
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